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From: Ed Rich (edrich@halcyon.com)
Subject: Hazelnuts or Filberts
Newsgroups: rec.food.cooking
Date: 1995/12/03
Seeing several references to "Hazelnuts" when the writer was probably talking about "Filberts" prompts this informational input. Having been raised next to an orchard in Oregon that had hundreds of Filbert trees and having ingested about a ton of Filbert nut meats per annum,I feel I am an authority on the subject. You see the Hazelnut is a native American variety growing wild in the early days. Filberts were introduced from Europe and possibly grafted onto native rootstock (not sure of this) but anyway, Filbert nuts became the commercial variety grown and marketed in the U.S.....
"Informational input", a phrase developed by, and belonging only, to me. All rights reserved. ``````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````` Ed (Moosemeat) Rich Spreading joy where-ever he doesn't go.
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From: Matthew Doig (grundoon@ridgecrest.ca.us)
Subject: Re: Hazelnuts or Filberts
Newsgroups: rec.food.cooking
Date: 1995/12/07
From Webster:
filbert 1: either of two European hazels (Corylus avellana pontica and C. maxima); also: the sweet thick-shelled nut of the filbert 2: HAZELNUT
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From: Greg Zywicki (gzywicki@cmsa.gmr.com)
Subject: Re: Hazelnuts or Filberts
Newsgroups: rec.food.cooking
Date: 1995/12/11
Having seen this definition posted here by Moosie prompted a little bit of research that illustrates the value of self-appointed experts.
I got out Webster's and looked up Hazelnut. Result - The nut of the Hazel.
Looked up Hazel. Result: "Any of a genus (Corylus) of shrubs or small trees of the birch family (esp. the American C. american and the european c. cornuta) bearing nuts....
Additionaly, the word origin for Hazel starts with ME hasel from OE ha-esel and links to OHG and L.
Also found Filbert - either of two European hazels.....
And lists ME from AF(684)
So while this proves nothing conclusive, I would submit that there's a high likelihood that the term hazelnut is contemporary, if not pre-dating, the term filbert and that both terms pre-date North American exploration.
I would further contend that since the term filbert comes from the fact that filberts were popular during the feast of St. Philbert (and I believe popular with same St.) that they had to be called something else before they were known as "Them nuts St. Philbert liked to eat", which I would allege was the term hazelnut.
This research does confirm the notion purported that current hazelnut/filbert consumption is based at least 50% on a the nut from the tree Corylus americanus, which explains Ed's contention that "Hazelnuts is Amurkin, Filberts are the product of foreign concerns."
This research also confirms the notion that there are always lots of names for the same thing, especially in food, and that there is rarely one cannonical name (eg - castor sugar/superfine sugar, Icing/confectioner's sugar, Eggplant/Aubergine, Rocket/arugula, Cayene/capsicum etc. etc. etc.)
Greg Z, who knows what he's talking about when he says hazelnuts.
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From: Don Kleist (kleist@gdls.com)
Subject: Re: Hazelnuts or Filberts
Newsgroups: rec.food.cooking
Date: 1995/12/14
FWIW - It was a filbert tree that I played in when I was growing up in Portland. At that time I had never heard of a hazlenut. That came many years later.
-- Don Kleist kleist@gdls.com
"Anything worth doing is worth doing to excess."
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From: yosef surez
Subject: Hazel nuts [potential]
Newsgroups: rec.gardens.edible
Date: 1998/10/31
Hazel Nuts have such potential!
I was down the hill yesterday looking at my Chinese Tree Hazels & thinking that these trees should be better known! There are about 10 or 12 species of Hazel...Corylus......from bushy small trees like the European C. avelana & C.cornuta from the USA.... to the huge Chinese species C.chinensis which can grow to 80 meters with beautiful flaking bark in spring! In between are the Tree hazels of India, Turkey & the north like the Tibetan species with red spiny "burrs" enclosing the fruit. They are such an interesting group. I graft standard bush hazels on Turkish tree hazels with great results & even better on the Indian species C.jaquemontii (at least I presume it is still called this) There are species all over China ...a couple in Japan & 2 or 3 (depending on the author) in the USA.....here's celebrating the Hazel Nut!!!
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From: homer (sarah.mcadamNOSPAM@virgin.net)
Subject: hazel nuts
Newsgroups: rec.gardens.edible
Date: 2000-12-27 10:24:28 PST
can I propegate hazel nut trees from hazel nuts? If so what is the best method? How long before I harvest nuts?
Lee
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From: Keith (mule@remove-kcinter.net)
Subject: Re: hazel nuts
Newsgroups: rec.gardens.edible
Date: 2000-12-28 21:53:15 PST
I can tell you a little
Corylus americana - hazelnut zone 4 to 9
related to the European Filbert - C.aveliana
y ou can grow them from seed however they will probably germinate best if given a cold treatment (stratification) of40¡F for 3 months before planting in spring, or just plant seeds outdoors in the fall.
plants maybe pruned to trees or grown as shrubs. one should plant at least two varieties to ensure proper pollination. It is also important that the pollen be released from one variety when the other is receptive for best results.
squirrels LOVE them and you'll likely have to fight them for nuts.
plants grow rather quickly and should start producing within 5-7 years they are kinda scraggly plants but can be pruned often at just about anytime.
Keith
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From: Web (weberaxe@home.com)
Subject: Re: hazel nuts
Newsgroups: rec.gardens.edible
Date: 2000-12-29 04:23:20 PST
Just leave a bunch of hazelnuts out for the squirrels. They are the most effecient tree planters around. You can save a couple of years off the time to harvest by buying trees from any good nursery.
Web
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From: Barrie Mather (bsmat@benalla.net.au)
Subject: Re: hazel nuts
Newsgroups: rec.gardens.edible
Date: 2001-01-04 21:05:03 PST
If you can, I think you will find layering easier. Failing that, cuttings
Barrie
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From: Quentin Grady (quentin@paradise.net.nz)
Subject: Re: hazel nuts
Newsgroups: rec.gardens.edible
Date: 2001-01-14 20:21:30 PST
The important thing with hazel nuts is to have a snappy Spring.
Where we are the Spring is too gradual and the male and female flowers don't synchronize. Darn. It can be vary trick selecting male and female varieties. A pair that works a hundred miles away can be a complete loss. You might like to chat to some local hazel nut growers and get nuts of several local fruiting varieties.
-- Quentin Grady ^ ^ / New Zealand, >#,#< [
/ \ /\ "... and the blind dog was leading."
http://homepages.paradise.net.nz/quentin http://linux.inhb.co.nz/blind-dog
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From: ROBERT POGSON (robert.pogson@mwcs.mb.ca)
Subject: Re: Gardening for wildlife
Newsgroups: rec.gardens
Date: 1996/11/05
asue69@aol.com wrote: A> Is anyone interested in gardening to attract birds and wildlife to your A> yard? Are you familiar with any group on the net that discusses this A> topic? Thanks!
This is discussed in rec.hunting from time to time, usually for deer. Generally speaking, wildlife will adopt a territory that has food, water and shelter. Deer, for example, wander, and need several suitable spaces in the vicinity. Small birds and mammals can restrict their movements to less than an acre. Shelter and food are often incompatible requirements which can be accomodated by juxtaposing shelter and food with as long a boundary as possible. This way, furtive creatures like mice and rabbits can dash back and forth if danger presents. Dogs and cats are a problem. They often harass wildlife unless it is nocturnal. Since wildlife knows no boundaries, you may need cooperation from your neighbours.
Dense cover like ground hugging roses, evergreens and rock/wood piles are great for mice, chipmunks, snakes etc. If you get gophers, plant extra flowers because they love to nibble. In winter, feeding stations may help. Mice stay under snow and benefit from any good food source at ground level. Chipmunks and squirrels love hazelnuts and acorns.
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