Edible Articles: Allium

Fields: Garlic Chives | ALLIUM COLOR | Japanese Beetles and Companion Plants | Veggie cat food | flowers on herbs

Garlic Chives

From: Christian B Schroeder (cschroed@uoguelph.ca)
Subject: Garlic Chives
Newsgroups: rec.gardens.edible
Date: 2000/02/07

Hi,

I'm trying to germinate garlic chive seeds. Unfortunately, every time I try I discover this whiteish hair-like growth appearing on the soil above where I've placed the seeds a day or two after planting. Digging around shows that this growth is attached to the seed. I believe this must be a fungus of some sort because every once in a while I get a seed to germinate (and they germinate within a day or two) and the root sure doesn't look like hair! The vast majority (>90%) of the seeds never come up. The seeds aren't old, either. Are these seeds ruined or of poor quality? How does one deal with this if the seeds are still OK? Can one sterilize seeds? I'd like to try to stay away from fungicides if possible. Any thoughts to help me out on this would be great. I'm using a peat-based soil-less mix, with a humid environment, constant 75-80 temperature, plastic covers and sterile miniature clay pots under GE chroma 75s.

Thanks, Christian.
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From: William Bolle (mannard1@azalea.net)
Subject: Re: Garlic Chives
Newsgroups: rec.gardens.edible
Date: 2000/02/07

I think that your biggest problem is the "high humidity". Most of the fungus problems are caused by high moisture content at the soil surface. Even if you can get your seeds to germinate the high moisture will cause "damping off". Try watering from the bottom only and keep the soil surface a little on the dry side. 75 to 80 degrees may be a little high for the onion family also. Most onion family seeds are only good for about one year. I find that the garlic chives around my place are almost like a weed---they get into everything. Hope this helps. Bill
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From: Nicola Fidler (nicki@pinnacle.net.au)
Subject: Re: Garlic Chives
Newsgroups: rec.gardens.edible
Date: 2000/02/15

Try surface sterilizing your seeds in 1% bleach solution, swirling it around for about 5 min then rinse thoroughly in clean water. In my experience, garlic chives do not remain viable for very long - I always get fresh seed each year and it takes up to 2 weeks to emerge.
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ALLIUM COLOR

From: CBlood59 (cblood59@aol.com)
Subject: ALLIUM COLOR
Newsgroups: austin.gardening
Date: 1997/09/07

Hello,

Does anyone know of a variety of allium which is a color other than violet? Thank you.

Curt Blood
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From: Larry Wolfe (lwolfe@ix.netcom.com)
Subject: Re: ALLIUM COLOR
Newsgroups: austin.gardening
Date: 1997/09/07

Garlic chives bloom white. The bloom is a bit more umbrella-shaped
than the rounded shapes of other alliums.

--larry
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From: Eric Wilson (e.l.wilson@ieee.org)
Subject: Re: ALLIUM COLOR
Newsgroups: austin.gardening
Date: 1997/09/08

I have garlic chives in a border and they are beautiful when they bloom, but be aware that they will self-sow, they were popping up everywhere in my yard last spring! Ann Marie
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From: Kelly Geerts (geerts.k@apple.com)
Subject: Re: ALLIUM COLOR
Newsgroups: austin.gardening
Date: 1997/09/12

There is a yellow allium -- I think it's allium moly.
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Japanese Beetles and Companion Plants

From: linda perkins (lperkins@calvin.skidmore.edu)
Subject: Japanese Beetles and Companion Plants
Newsgroups: rec.gardens.roses
Date: 1998/08/12

In a nutshell, ARE THERE ANY!!!!! Any that repel the little nasties that is? Granted, here in 4b/5a the season is coming to an end (thank God) but in their case - gone is NOT forgotten. Are there any plants that the beetles hate that are ok to plant with roses?

I've been told not to put out traps because they draw more to your yard, Sevin is supposed to do the job but if there is a way without using chemicles I'd like to try it.

Linda
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From: lenni peskin (lennijay@home.com)
Subject: Re: Japanese Beetles and Companion Plants
Newsgroups: rec.gardens.roses
Date: 1998/08/13

I planted 2-3 allium/chives around each of my roses earlier this summer. I don't know if it's just coincidence, but I've only seen 2 JBs this year. I know they're prevalent in this area because 1 of our trees used to be inundated with them until we had it taken out (removed because it was in very bad shape/health). Lenni
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Veggie cat food

From: Bob Avery H....... (CASEY5@prodigy.net)
Subject: Re: Veggie cat food
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats.misc, alt.animals.felines, rec.pets.cats
Date: 1999/01/03

Onions are toxic to cats.
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BobH
"You cannot move mountains, if you believe them to be mountains. You must think of them as collections of small stones, Which can be moved on at a time, and then reassembled."
-- The Tao of Meow
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From: Toni J. Canfield (tjcanfie@umich.edu)
Subject: Re: Veggie cat food
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats.misc, alt.animals.felines, rec.pets.cats
Date: 1999/01/04

How toxic? All onions? What about leeks, garlic, chives? My cats just love a salad of chives before dinner, it is nearly as good as grass to them. It gives them horrible breath, but then they always have pretty attrocious breath ('specially my little Fruity, she has had bad breath all her life and brushing her teeth doesn't really seem to be helping much).

dudelcat
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From: Yngver (yngver@aol.com)
Subject: Re: Veggie cat food
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats.misc
Date: 1999/01/04

It is more accurate to say that onions can cause anemia in cats, not that they are toxic. The anemia generally goes away once you quit feeding onions. However, vets will warn not to give baby food that contains onion powder to a sick cat (baby food is often recommended to coax a sick cat to eat), because in a cat that's already ill, anemia could make the cat even sicker.

yngver
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From: Bob Avery H....... (CASEY5@prodigy.net)
Subject: Re: Veggie cat food
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats.misc, alt.animals.felines, rec.pets.cats
Date: 1999/01/04

Hi Toni, Click on these links for detailed info..... http://vet.purdue.edu/depts/addl/toxic/cover1.htm http://www.ansci.cornell.edu/plants/plants.html

It goes beyond "bad breath". It affects their blood chemistry, if I remember correctly. You might want to discuss this with your vet, or post the question in news:alt.med.veterinary
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Cheers, BobH
"If you want to be a psychological novelist and write about human beings, the best thing you can do is to keep a pair of cats." -- Aldous Huxley
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From: Bob Avery H....... (CASEY5@prodigy.net)
Subject: Re: Veggie cat food
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats.misc, alt.animals.felines, rec.pets.cats
Date: 1999/01/04

Allium spp.(Onions, and Chives) are specifically named in one of the links I included in my earlier response.
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From: yngver (ingver@aol.com)
Subject: Re: Veggie cat food
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats.misc
Date: 1999/01/04

In article <369107B7.1499@prodigy.net> "Bob Avery H......." <CASEY5@prodigy.net> writes:

> Click on these links for detailed info.....
> http://vet.purdue.edu/depts/addl/toxic/cover1.htm
> http://www.ansci.cornell.edu/plants/plants.html

I looked at these links and didn't see anything about onions' toxicity to cats, although a few mentioned that cattle, horses and sheep can get sick or even die from eating too many wild onions. One link does list catnip as a plant toxic to cats, however, which underscores my point about toxic not being quite the same thing as poisonous.


-yngver (to reply, change initial "i" to "y")
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flowers on herbs

From: Barry MacKnight (wmcleodm@unb.ca)
Subject: flowers on herbs
Newsgroups: rec.gardens
Date: 1995/07/22

Hi! I'm just a beginning gardener, so forgive my confusion - when herbs flower, is it still okay to eat them? (i.e. thyme, oregano, basil) What about when they bolt (i.e. parsley)?

Appreciate your comments!
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From: SkiFast123 (skifast123@aol.com)
Subject: Re: flowers on herbs
Newsgroups: rec.gardens
Date: 1995/07/23

If the herb is an EDIBLE herb, then yes, it is probably ok to eat the flower. However, you should realize that many, many plants, a large # of them poisonous, are considered herbs. For example, foxglove (digitalis) is definitely one that you wouldn't want to eat. Or monkshood (aconitum).

I agree w/ the previous post re: basil flowers. When you see 'em, pinch 'em off immediately, bc the flowers mean that the plant wants to "bolt" (produce seed), which means that it has no more raison d'tre. Keep pinching 'em, and you'll get more leaves, thereby prolonging the life of the plant. (But you can always eat the pinchings.)

The allium family (chives, and garlic chives, for example) also has edible flowers. But watch out, bc they're very potent in taste--take one chive blossom (a blossom head is actually made up of hundreds of individual flowers), and just sprinkle a *few* of the individual flowers on a salad--a little goes a long way!
--carrie--

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